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Android Beta 30th October 2014


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Tim Dawson
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Today's beta further enhances the PLOG work (live and regular) we've been doing, with minor tweaks.

Printing is now fully supported in Android, just like in our iOS product.

Printed output from Weight and Balance has been improved (across all our products) to incorporate the acceptable loading envelope graph.

It's important to note that to support printing, we've had to use the Android Printing API which is only available in Android 4.4 and higher. If your device has a lower version, you should not see the Print button but SkyDemon should still work just fine. Please confirm here for us, as we don't have any Android devices running less than 4.4 in the office.

Thanks!


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Tim

excellent work !

- No print buttons on my Asus HD7 running on Android 4.2.2
- Printing in PLOG/LIVE PLOG/W&B works fine on Android 4.4.2

- Unfortunately the screen timeout is kicking in during LIVE PLOG usage, so after 2min I get a dark screen.

I experienced a difference between the information I got from the "static" PLOG and the information from the LIVE PLOG, though. Sometimes there is huge difference, starting with missing (ground) frequencies or even no frequencies of the departure airport at all - no frequencies of the adjacent airspaces depicted in the static PLOG. No frequencies of the arrival & alternate airport either. To clarify I can explain on a flight I did this summer, if you like.

-mike





-mike

Edited 10/30/2014 8:28:24 PM by Mike@EDTG
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Thanks for pointing out the screen timeout issue; fixed.
Regarding frequencies, the live PLOG will show the same as the Radio screen. That is, it shows frequencies relevant to what you are doing right now: the airspace you are in, radio services you can reach, and nearby airfields. If you're sitting at your departure airfield, you should see frequencies for that airfield. Are you not seeing that?
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Tim Dawson (10/31/2014)
If you're sitting at your departure airfield, you should see frequencies for that airfield. Are you not seeing that?


Tim

that´s it. Departure airport & arrival airport frequencies are missing in the LIVE PLOG & RADIO Screen or only the tower frequency is available where Ground/Approach... should be there. I wonder, because in the PLOG everything is present. The second example I experienced this summer with a previous SD version & the Radio Screen, so I assume it´s a longer lasting issue though.

Example:
Trip EDTG - EDTR direct overflying Müllheim gliderfield changing FIS from Langen to Zürich - PLOG shows everything. (Frequencies for EDTG Info/Müllheim Radio/FIS Langen/FIS Zürich/EDTR Info)
GA Parking EDTG - EDTG Info frequency is Missing
Approaching EDTR - EDTR Info frequency is MISSING (should be there, at least 5 min prior approaching)

Example:
Trip LPCS - LPBG with LPVR as alternate
PLOG shows Cascais Ground/Tower/Lissbon Approach/LPBG Info/LPVR Info Alternate Freq.
GA Parking LPCS - RADIO screen only shows Cascais Tower
Approaching LPBG - No RADIO information about LPBG Info frequency whatsoever (Alternate LPVR is missing too)

-mike

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Thanks Mike. We identified a bug which was stopping lots of frequencies from being added to the live PLOG and radio screens (it's the same code).
You should see loads more in the next beta, and you should always see the frequencies for your takeoff/landing/alternate airfield if it's within 30 miles.
Do let me know if there are still any scenarios where you'd expect to see frequencies when you're in flight but they do not appear.
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Tim, has the iOS veraion of SD taken a back seat now? It seems as if the new features are added to Android first, with the iOS lagging behind. I am not getting any update notices from the Appstore for SD.

-- Chris.
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In the live plog context menu as well as "Remove from route" and "Insert waypoint before" could we also have "Show on map" which would return to the map screen and display as if a "Find waypoint" had been requested in the map screen? Also maybe have a "Route direct" option which would remove all intermediate waypoints from the current position to the selected waypoint?

@Chris:  I think the answer might be that it's much easier to post beta versions for Android as you don't have to go through the app store and its release process every time as you do with iOS apps.





Edited 11/1/2014 10:59:05 AM by srayne
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ckurz7000 (11/1/2014)
Tim, has the iOS veraion of SD taken a back seat now? It seems as if the new features are added to Android first, with the iOS lagging behind. I am not getting any update notices from the Appstore for SD.

-- Chris.




IOS simply doesn't allow public betas. So sit back & relax. We will do the beta testing for you 😇

-mike
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Tim

NOTAM Print - Wordwrap is missing in printout, cuted output.

What do you think about reverse order in 'plates - document browser' menu -  user documents to displayed first. Background about this, I use to store i.e. checklists and the new printed PDF PLOG output in this user documents folder for direct access.  An extra 'user documents' toggle within the 'plates' menu would be fine as well.
 
-mike
Edited 11/1/2014 5:23:08 PM by Mike@EDTG
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Chris, don't confuse beta releases with public releases. The public releases of SkyDemon usually happen on the same day. There is an iOS beta, where all these new features are also being trialled, but it's private. You cannot do public beta testing on iOS.

Simon, good idea, we'll get that option added.

Mike, thanks, we'll review the NOTAM printed output. We'd have to hear some pretty strong support for moving user documents to the top of the document browser support before we would change the way that works.


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